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2017 NBA Combine: Measurements vs. College Listings

Posted in 101 ESPN, 2017 NBA Combine, 2017 NBA Draft, Basketball, Bleacher Report, Draft Express, nba, NBA Draft, NCAA, Sports with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on May 22, 2017 by Shane Gray

Shane Gray (@RealShaneGray)

Earlier this month, the NBA held its annual Draft Combine, where dozens of NBA hopefuls and representatives of all 30 NBA teams gathered for player interviews, athletic and strength tests, 5 on 5 scrimmages and, yes — official length and height measurements.

For decades, fans have taken interest in discovering just how tall some of the NCAA’s biggest stars actually were/are. Some of the measurements over the years have been eye-opening and — in some cases — hurt a prospects draft stock.

Way back in 1992, Oklahoma State stud Byron Houston — a collegiate All-American who was listed at 6’7″ with the Cowboys — measured just 6’4″ barefoot at the Combine, putting him closer to 6’5″ in shoes than his supposed 6’7″.

More recently, Kansas State standout Michael Beasley — who was billed at 6’10” in college and has continued to be listed at 6’10” at his various NBA stops — measured just 6’7″ in socks and 6’8″ 1/4 with shoes at the 2008 Combine.

As you can guess, some teams showed diminished interest in Houston and Beasley after their measurements. For Houston, who primarily played the post, 6’5″ in shoes wasn’t nearly as attractive as 6’7″. For Beasley, a classic tweener who can play a little at both the three and the four, his 6’8″ in- shoes measurement wasn’t as appealing to some clubs as a 6’10” measurement would have been.

At this year’s combine, as has long been the case, many of the players came up significantly shorter than advertised. I took the time to compare every prospect measured at the Combine to their college listing, checking at least two to three sources to ensure accuracy. Here are the results — first as a group and then individually.

Of 66 players measured both with and without shoes early in day when people are significantly taller (1/3 inch to 3/4 inch+ in some cases than afternoon/evening due to spinal compression), here are the results of the NO SHOES measurements:

-13 of 66 prospects (19.6%) measured 2 to 2.5 inches below their listed college height.
-29 of 66 players (43.9%) measured 1.75 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-41 of 66 prospects (62.1%) measured 1.5 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-50 of 66 players (75.7%) measured 1.25 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-59 of 66 players (89.3%) measured 1 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-62 of 66 prospects (93.9%) measured .75 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-65 of 66 players (98.4%) measured .5 to 2.5 inches below listed college height.
-1 of 66 players (1.5%) measured same height as listed college height.

In terms of IN SHOE measurements — players play in shoes, after all, and thus in-shoe measurements are completely valid and appropriate — just 25 of 66 measured as tall as their listed college height. Even with shoes on, 41 of 66 were shorter than their listed college height.

Individually, the results were as follows:

Player                     No Shoes     In Shoes      College Listing  College
Jonathon Jeanne   7’0 3/4″         7’2″                 7’2″                       France
Thomas Welsh      6’11 1/2″        7’0 1/2″          7’0″                       UCLA
Omer Yurtseven   6’10 1/2″        6’11 3/4″       7’0″                       N.C. State
Zach Collins           6’10 1/4″        7’0″               7’0″                       Gonzaga
Justin Patton          6’10”              6’11 1/4″       7’0″                      Creighton
Moritz Wagner      6’10”              6’11 1/4″       6’11”                    Michigan
Thomas Bryant      6’9 1/2″         6’10 3/4″      6’10”                     Indiana
Tony Bradley          6’9 1/4″         6’10” 3/4″     6’11”                     UNC
Harry Giles             6’9 1/4″         6’10” 1/2″     6’10 & 6’11”         Duke
Jarrett Allen           6’9″                6’10 1/4″      6’11”                     Texas
Bam Adebayo        6’8 3/4″          6’9 3/4″        6’10”                     Kentucky
TJ Leaf                     6’8 3/4″         6’9 3/4″         6’10”                     UCLA
Kennedy Meeks     6’8 3/4″         6’10 1/4″       6’10”                     UNC
Ivan Rabb               6’8 3/4″         6’10”              6’11”                    California
DJ Wilson                6’8 3/4″         6’10 1/2″       6’10”                    Michigan
Ike Anigbogu          6’8 1/2″         6’9 3/4″         6’10”                    UCLA
Eric Mica                 6’8 1/2″         6’9 1/4″         6’10”                    BYU
John Collins            6’8 1/4″         6’9 1/2″         6’10”                    Wake Forest
Tyler Lydon            6’8 1/4″         6’9 1/2″         6’9″                      Syracuse
Chris Boucher        6’8″                6’9 1/2″         6’10”                    Oregon
Kyle Kuzma            6’8″                6’9 1/2″         6’9″                      Utah
Jonathan Motley    6’7 3/4″         6’8″ 3/4″        6’10”                   Baylor
Caleb Swanigan     6’7 1/2″         6’8 1/2″          6’9″                     Purdue
Isaiah Hicks            6’7 1/4″         6’8 1/2″          6’9″                     UNC
Alec Peters              6’7 1/4           6’8 3/4″         6’9″                     Valparaiso
Jordan Bell             6’7″                6’8 1/2″         6’9″                      Oregon
Justin Jackson        6’7″                6’8 1/4″         6’8″                      UNC
Cameron Oliver     6’7″                6’8 1/4″         6’8″                     Nevada
Devin Robinson     6’7″                6’8 1/4″         6’8″                     Florida
Svi Mykhailiuk      6’6 1/2            6’7 1/2″         6’8″                    Kansas
OG Anunoby           6’6 1/4″          6’7 3/4″         6’8″                    Indiana
V.T. Beachem          6’6 1/4″          6’8″                6’8″                    Notre Dame
Nigel Hayes            6’6 1/4″          6’7 1/2″          6’8″                    Wisconsin
Jaron Blossomgame 6’5 3/4″      6’6 3/4″          6’7″                    Clemson
Justin Jackson        6’5 3/4″         6’7″                 6’7″                    Maryland
Jamel Artis             6’5 1/2″         6’6 3/4″           6’7″                    Pittsburgh
Terrance Ferguson 6’5 1/2″       6’7″                 6’7″                    Abelaine 36ers (pro)
Wesley Iwundu     6’5 1/2″         6’6 3/4″           6’7″                    Kansas State
P.J. Dozier               6’5 1/4″         6’6 3/4″           6’6″                    South Carolina
Semi Ojeleye          6’5 1/4″         6’6″                 6’7″                    SMU
Dillon Brooks         6’5″               6’6″                 6’7″                    Oregon
Dwayne Bacon      6’4 3/4″         6’6 1/4″           6’7″                    Florida State
Damyean Dotson  6’4 1/2″         6’5 1/2″           6’5″                    Houston
Luke Kennard        6’4 1/2″        6’5 1/2″           6’6″                    Duke
Davon Reed            6’4 1/2″        6’5 1/2″           6’6″                    Miami
Peter Jok                 6’4 1/2″         6’5 3/4″          6’6″                     Iowa
Edmond Sumner   6’4″               6’5 3/4″          6’6″                     Xavier
Hamidou Diallo     6’3 3/4″         6’5″                6’5″                     Kentucky
Josh Hart                 6’3 3/4″         6’5″                6’5 1/2″              Villanova
Sindarius Thornwell 6’3 1/2″     6’4 3/4″         6’5″                    South Carolina
Kobi Simmons        6’3 1/4″         6’4 1/2″         6’5″                    Arizona
Derrick White        6’3 1/4″          6’4 1/2″         6’5″                    Colorado
Tyler Dorsey           6’3″                6’4 1/2″         6’4″                    Oregon
Andrew Jones         6’3″                6’4 1/4″         6’4″                    Texas
Rawle Alkins          6’2 1/2″          6’3 3/4″         6’5″                    Arizona
De’ Aaron Fox        6’2″                 6’3 1/4″         6’3″                    Kentucky
Frank Jackson        6’2                  6’3 1/2″         6’3″                    Duke
Nigel Williams-Goss 6’1 1/2″       6’3″               6’3″                    Gonzaga
Isaiah Briscoe        6’1 1/4″           6’2 3/4″        6’3″                     Kentucky
Donovan Mitchell  6’1 1/4″          6’3″               6’3″                    Louisville
Monte Morris         6’1 1/4″           6’2 1/2″        6’3″                    Iowa State
Melo Trimble         6’1 1/4″           6’2 1/2″        6’3″                    Maryland
Kadeem Allen        6’1″                 6’2 3/4″         6’3″                    Arizona
Frank Mason         5’11”                6’0″               5’11”                  Kansas
Derrick Walton     5’11”                6’0 3/4″         6’1″                   Michigan
Jawun Evans         5’10 3/4″          5’11 1/2″       6’1″                  Oklahoma State

The Finale from Legends Of The Dome

Posted in 101 ESPN, Football, Randy Karraker, Sports, St. Louis Rams with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , on July 27, 2016 by thelegendkil

 

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The Legends of the Dome flag football game lived up to the hype and then some. The score of the game didn’t matter. There were plenty of hugs, handshakes, and tears shed last Saturday in what was our last time ever stepping in that building to watch football. One of the best moments was the player introduction and I stood right by the tunnel as every single St.Louis Rams player was announced. And I swear it gave me goosebumps watching those guys run through that fog for the last time. It was great catching up with some of the former Rams players like Roland Williams who videobombed me on the field as I was interviewing Jackie Joyner-Kersee.

One of the biggest cheers was for Hall of Fame tackle Orlando Pace who was honored at halftime at midfield with his family. 101 ESPN Randy Karraker delivered some heartfelt words for Pace who makes his home here in St.Louis. Pace also was taken on the golf cart and waved to the crowd of over 10,000 people and thanking them for support and love.

Some of those guys still look like they can play today. Former Rams cornerback Dre Bly came over to me on the sideline and said,”Please pray for us cause I’m out of shape.” Keith Lyle told me after the game that he hopes this event continues. I think we should try bowling or softball from here on out,” said Lyle. Then he paused for a second when I reminded him it’s hot as can be outside. You right bowling it is, said Lyle as he bent over in laughter next to Jeff Wilkins who was sporting an ace bandage on his foot he tweaked his ankle. Wilkins quipped,”Man this is going to mess up my golf game.”

I also got a chance to interview several prominent figures from the Greatest Show on Turf including Mike Martz and Dick Vermeil. You can watch those interviews on St.Louis American Youtube channel. When the game was over and they started turning off the lights I was still standing on the field and then a stadium employee told me I got 12 minutes to leave. I didn’t want to leave yet. I got so many memories from the double overtime loss to the Carolina Panthers, seeing Larry Fitzgerald first game, or seeing former Big Red wideout Roy Green who was my all-time favorite when I was a kid. As I was walking down that long hallway past the locker rooms for the final time I saw D’Marco Farr we looked at each other and I said,”this is it man I can’t believe it.” Farr shook his head, “I know,” he said.

Bittersweet it was, and maybe this will stoke the fire once again for the NFL, it’s going to take some time for the wound to heal. But, I appreciate what Isaac Bruce continues to do for the city of St.Louis and help provide a chance for all of us to have some closure on the Rams no longer being in St.Louis and this town returning back to a two-sport town again. For more coverage please subscribe to our Youtube page at STLAmerican/Video and you can also follow me on twitter @thelegendkil @NTheZoneShow @NTheZoneNetwork

 

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